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17/12/2013

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This was copied from my Facebook and so I am including the comments on this "Note" from Facebook.

3:23 pm

Truth Seeking... Justice for Men! (and my son, Gabriel Noe)Kurt Monahanposted toTheresa Olaes Noe
9 hours ago
okay i tried to message you and no response there so i will post here. Okay after much thought we are trying to figure out how posting Billies stuff and things.to make us look bad is going to get a DNA test done because in reality.all it will do is.upset.people and.make them do the opposite I tried.yesterday to.solve this peacefully and we got nowhere I am staging that if there is one.more post on this subject at ALL we will go back to.square one where you can file yourself I am.not worried.anymore.on what you post because we will handle it if.it.happens I am not going to be bullies to do something because you threaten to post.stuff so the ball is in your.court if this.is.dropped.and.nothing.else said we will do it in January if.not you can handle.it thank you and then you post again on instagram if you post anything else we will do nothing except contact the authorities again and just let you handle things this is not the way to do this
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Okay, so this is what I am gathering.. and Why I copied and pasted what you said and reposting it is because everything that we have agreed upon or discussed now is gone (If you are like me of course you saved it every few posts).

Kurt: “okay i tried to message you and no response there so i will post here”
      ----I Never have received any messages at all from you and of course you are more than welcome to post here at any time that you would like to.  However, just wanted you to be aware that I did NOT receive any messages from you.

Kurt: “we will do it in January”
     ---How am I to believe what you to tell me to be truth?  This is what Michelle said just yesterday,

“Michelle Roberts Monahan
Dec 15, 2013  we will file tomorrow through child support and how would you like us to contact you to show the paperwork to you and we need your addres to give them

Kurt, I have no desire to fight with you about Katelynn Grace.. In fact, it should of been handle much differently to begin with.  I definitely agree with you there.  As I have said, I would of let things continue with Gabriel saving money, until Michelle went on Instagram (which she had deleted) and taunted and bullied my son over and over on his pictures.

I truly don’t know what to think.  I have been told over and over, that Gabriel isn’t the father and then when things are well.. Gabriel is the father again.  Anyone would want a simple DNA to put it to rest.  However, everytime it has been stated, Gabriel hasn’t cared, Gabriel is a dead beat (even when the baby wasn’t born), Gabriel hasn’t tried.. and I have allowed him to fall over and over going against, Billie and Michelle and you.. And So, when that happened on Instagram I was done with the open bulliness and open bashing of my son.

However, just as you I have tried to come resolution.  For the sake of Katelynn and no one else, there needs to be closure.  There is a place in Anderson called Anmed (all they do is swab the cheek of both parents and the child).. Find out when it is convenient for Billie to bring the baby there and I will have Gabriel there.  I understand that will be just about a week for results.  Then there will be closure of yes he definitely is (and can’t be told differently) or no he isn’t.

However, I will give up posting things, if agreed upon for DNA.. FOR NOW.. ONLY if Billie is willing to give up something too since she has taunted Gabriel about the baby and dangling her over him for the past week.. What will she give up?  After all, my posting is just seek truth.. and letting the public be the jury of seeing truth and evidence.. Just like Michelle saying she will go Monday morning to file, did she?

Comments:

Kurt Monahan First off she made one coment on instagram not several 2 due to having to cover all costs of.katelynn we. Have no extra money that is.why.I said in January I would file because there is a fee up front. If you are paying for the test in Anderson i will have billie there but we are not paying for the test because we do not have the money but Billie stated she will only do this if posts stop we are font being threatened by you to post things If you want.to stoop to that level there is nothing we can do to stop you I will just.react to it and comfort my.daughters.pain but.please be.aware that what ever secret.you think you have I am not ashamed.of in any.way and have never done anything to be ashamed of towards my children. So there is our decision ty and God bless
December 17, 2013 at 5:08pm

Tina Vickery Sounds to me he's got something to hide. If the child isn't Gabriel's, then why is Billie see sawing back and forth on this. It should be really simple.

December 17, 2013 at 6:01pm

Kurt Monahan Well your wrong I have nothing to hide we are. Not denying a DNA test just that they need to file and she is only posting her side see.there is a lot of things that have Ben side by her son as well but we chose not to.post things publicly

December 17, 2013 at 6:14pm

Theresa Olaes Noe All I said was it was agreed to before she has the baby... 2nd as posted Michelle said she would go and file today and now in January what am I to believe

December 17, 2013 at 6:33pm

Kurt Monahan That's fine Billie stated she wants nothing more then to prove you all wrong that he is the father. Everyone can believe what they would like about each other we are fine with whatever you all decide to do. We all have a past and if you feel necessary to put someones personal life out there then you also get to deal with everything that comes with it. I am done posting as well as all my family. So now as you say we are back to square one when we recieve the court paperwork we will do what is ask but until then Thank you and God bless

December 17, 2013 at 6:53pm

Theresa Olaes Noe Unfortunately I'm sorry that people can not do as they say and yes... I will continue searching truth. Your words was given all during just as billie promised on recordings.. And just as Michelle posted on Google plus unless she deleted that now that it would be done and still here we are going into Wednesday and still not being done

December 17, 2013 at 7:02pm

Tina Vickery This is the way I look at it.....first of all, Billie said Gabriel's the father. Then she said he's not the father, someone else is. But that guy said no, he's definitely not the father. Then she said the Gabriel is the father. Hmmmm, me, being a parent of 2 boys, I would definitely be all about finding out who the father is. Raising a child is a HUGE responsibility. It's not to be taken lightly. You can't play around with peoples feelings and emotions. And that's what you guys are doing. You go to his job and tell him he's a dead beat dad. Go to the court, file the papers, pay the $45 fee. Once the DNA test is taken, if it comes back as Gabriel's, then he'll have to pay the court for the test. If it comes back he's not the father, then Billie has to pay for the test. That's the simplest and fastest way to get this resolved.

December 17, 2013 at 7:02pm

Kurt Monahan We have never been to his job while he is working see you only know there side I have texts where Gabriel has said he was not the father so this doesn't involve you so bye

December 17, 2013 at 7:16pm

Theresa Olaes Noe Actually it involves everyone that is my family and friends during all of this tag have heard, listened, that has been there from day one.. So yes that's why it is public for everyone to be jury and see all evidence since DNA keeps being refused.. She has said he is the daddy and then not the daddy... What is anyone to think? All comments good and bad as long as it can be backed up with proof.. Can be shared. 

Want to put a stop to everything?? Simply have Billie put it to rest and get a DNA done as agreed upon over and over again. She is the one that is trying to hang the child over his head saying yes and no and yes and no... And if you have nothing to hide then why did you delete all comments on Instagram and why did Michelle delete all her 1st comments on the Instagram.. Including= a picture on Gabriel fb.. But if the public does their research our parts of the conversation is there... You keep saying they hear just our side.. But you keep hiding your side..#confused including agreements

December 18, 2013 at 4:31am 

Kurt Monahan
 The DNA was never denied but was also never agreed in the being WHO would do it.like I said in the being of this conversation I am done. If you all want it go ahead and get it that's fine. We are.not questioning paternity you are. We know whom the father is. Thank you have a blessed day.

December 18, 2013 at 5:21am

Theresa Olaes Noe Before I post anymore Kurt Monahan from what you say and you not or Noone has ever declined etc... Or that Gabriel has denied ever being the father.. Or Billie saying he is and isn't or that you have never denied or she has never denied DNA... Please go to conversation as

Evidence 2... If you click on the message it will say their name.. It states they have changed the due date and no its not Gabriel's.. Etc etc.. It also states Billie doesn't want to put the baby threw a DNA test and no its not Gabriel's.. Blah blah it goes on... 

Private message that above is from June 22... Just thought I'd give you a chance to review it first before I post days and weeks of conversation... And you also have a wonderful Wednesday

December 18, 2013 at 6:02am

Kurt Monahan And the reason Billie said no to a.DNA test.was.because.you guys wanted.it.done.while she.was pregnant and as far as her saying it was not his was because he would not leave her alone or her friends alone just post whatever you want and you can reap the benefits.or pay.the consequence of your.actions either way but still do not.understand now you think this is going to force us to.file the.DNA all its.doing is pissing Billie off and making her not want to do anything this is her decision maybe if you talked to her and listened to things that Gabriel has told her there is reasons she is.doing things.but its.only your side.and deleting instagram was not to get rid of messages because you have copies right I said nothing wrong see you claim to post copies but.don't.forget we.have copies.to that can come out.of things.your.son.has said and it.will come out.in court so please as I said.earlier drop the bullshit and post or leave it alone and go file because.nothing you say.or.do.will make us.do anything different.and its not like this.with.or.without your.friends.are.going.to.change.anything.just.piss.us.off

December 18, 2013 at 6:38am

Angel Mello Thongsythavong If they want to collect support from Gabriel, then they have to file, and they have to request the paternity test (seeing no "father" has signed the birth certificate) sounds like they need to get their act together, it's obvious this girl has had sex with multiple partners......MAURY!!

December 18, 2013 at 7:00am

Kurt Monahan Ok after reading the conversation on June 22 you are right on two things yes Billie said he was not the father but what is not.stated or.posted is the.phone conversations for weeks.before that Gabriel and.Billie were fighting and Billie just.wanted.to be.left alone and and yes.number two a DNA.test was.agreed upon but never anywhere that we would file has mu daughter said.wrong things yes.so has your.son but they are only 16 and say.things.without thinking.sometimes but see but Billie explained to us as to why things.were.said.and.we.believe her as you believe the things he.has said so.please.we.want.a.DNA test as well just you need to file we will not due to money situation

December 18, 2013 at 7:01am

Kurt Monahan Ok first of all we are dealing with two minors and like I said your neglecting to say why things were said on both parties but like I have said a few times you didn't hear their converstation between Billie and Gabriel as to why things were said the way they were. But as well as I can read so can everyone else the whole story is not being stated only your half so I am not upset at peoples reactions when it comes to this conversation. I am not putting our two minors whole relationship on public notice because they are minors and it is just not right. Billie has said go ahead and tell her side because she is really tired of looking like she is a terrible person and Gabriel us an angel but that is just untrue. So like I said I will not stoop down to that level and publicly write about EVERYTHING that went on between them. WE ARE NOT DENYING DNA BUT DUE TO THE FACT WE ARE 10000% SURE WHO KATELYNNS FATHER IS WE DONT NEED TO FILE WE DONT WANT ANYTHING FROM ANY OF YOU. THEY ARE BOTH TAKEN CARE OF. SO YOUR THE ONE QUESTIONING SO GO AND HAVE A DNA SET UP AND WE WILL THERE. I WOULD LIKE NOTHING MORE TO DEAL WITH ALL OF YOU BUT JUST DUE ME A FAVOR AND LOOK CLOSELY AT KATELYNNS BABY PICTURES WITH YOU SIDE OF THE FAMILY AND TELL ME ITS NOT TRUE. THANK YOU

December 18, 2013 at 7:19am

Theresa Olaes Noe Thank you Angel Mello Thongsythavong... Never of course any woman knows that no one would ever ask another to have a amno done during a pregnancy. It is way to high risk. 

As for looking bad in front of everyone is because I'm finally stepping up figh
ting for my son. Michelle went on my son's pics and was taunting teasing acting like a child on my son's.. (of coirse) you took that done bit his side of convo just as mine is still up. I won't allow my son to fight alone as he has been. 

I absolutely want Gabriel just as Gabriel wants to step up to the plate just as he wanted from the beginning.. No one shouldn't want nothing more than that than a father to actually step up to the plate as my son wants to do. 

Even back in August q please look at pics your step son going on his fb and calling him a dead beat... Etc... When the baby wasn't even born yet... And then not even having the audacity to let him know the baby was born.. But he heard it at school because his peers knew he had cared from the beginning. 

Yes you are right in one thing.. They are children maybe instead of all this between you and I that actually has no rights to that child (or you might because she has your last name) I'll go to dss and talk to a social worker and we will go from there.

Yes angel you are right father's should have rights but they don't unless they pay thousands of dollars.. They know that and that is why they have done what they have done and that is why I am doing what I am... 

What is strange is... Kurt you aren't even the father... Yet you have been her voice from the beginning.. Also please look at convo that was recorded at the restaurant with them agreeing at the beginning of what was said... And what was cleared because Michelle according to her looked at Billie and said... Well listen to it since Michelle said you have a copy.. It is only 1 hour and 27 mins and 13 secs.. But way worth listening to

December 18, 2013 at 8:51am

Kurt Monahan I have that converstaion and have listened to a few times they both agreed to a DNA but not that we were going to do it ourselves. WHY would we go have one don't when we know who the dad is and not doubting it. Like I already said we want NOTHING from you at all. Please go to whom ever you feel is necessary we have NOTHING AT ALL TI HIDE. And me loving and caring for all of my children is just like you loving and Caring for Vincents children. You want us to freak out and bow down to you and that's not gonna happen....the comments on fb were written by a 13 year old that thought he was doing the right thing by protecting his sister that's all. And like I said Michelle and Billie deleted thing not to hide anything but because they don't want to have to look at a bunch of garbage. As for Michelle teasing your son there is one comment under the picture of baby stuff Billie never even got and we sit here everyday and watch Billie being an amazing mother to katelynn and she is doing it on her own and she doesn't have a problem with it that way.

December 18, 2013 at 9:18am

Angel Mello Thongsythavong
 They can't get what he doesn't have $$$, remember it's the child that's being left out, knowing he and his family would love her unconditionally (if proven it is his) Just imagine when she grows up and finds out all this crap that went on. Never keep a child away from his/her parents because of financial hardship, it hurts deeper inside for the child than anyone else.

December 18, 2013 at 9:21am

Kurt Monahan And back to your other comment what exactly would you like Billie to give up? She has given up everything to be katelynns mom...her friends school some family and all of her teenager years to be a mom. Now what else would you like this 16 year old girl well young lady to give up.

December 18, 2013 at 9:22am

Angel Mello Thongsythavong They chose to give up their life (who ever the parents are) when they laid down in the bed together, I am sure if you give him the chance to care for her he would do the same....

December 18, 2013 at 9:25am

Kurt Monahan Its not money I don't want there money at all I am saying I don't have the Money to do a DNA test. I am taking care of three kids and a grandbaby so all do respect I don't need comment ob half told stories or posts. Like I said I will not post Billies and Gabriels personal information publicly its.just not right. Their personal letter thoughts texts or anything else will not come from me nor any of my family.

December 18, 2013 at 9:27am

Tina Vickery I would gladly pay for the court filing to have an end to all of this for both families. That way, there will be no more arguments, etc. I'll gladly pay the $45 filing fee just to get this done and over with. At least the baby will just get her little cheek swabbed and not have to go thru what my youngest son had to go thru because his dad was actually a dead beat. My son had to have blood drawn and he was only 15 months old at the time. I didn't have to pay anything at all. When the test came back 99.999999 percent that he was the father, he had to pay the cost of the test. I think he still owes Oconee County for the test. He's the real deal on dead beat dads. So, to put an end to all this, I'll pay for the test.

December 18, 2013 at 9:28am

Kurt Monahan Ok that is good tell them to go file and yes we do know what deadbeat it my oldest two aren't blood mine they have a dead beat who played the I am not the dad card and he has been in jail 9 times because of it. They are now 18 and 16 and never knew him but are very well taken care of and very loved by me. People make mistakes in there life ni one is perfect God knows I am not but I do the best I can. I can walk with my head held high and not be ashamed of my past or anything I have done in my life.
December 18, 2013 at 9:42am

Kurt Monahan i did research and found this information off the website her is what they can do it has numbers and addresses to start the process without us and a manageble way so please follow this and lets stop this it is in my next post

December 18, 2013 at 9:45am

Kurt Monahan 1. The mother of the child would complete a Custodial
Parent Application OR he potential
father would complete a Non-Custodial Parent Applicat

ion. You can call SCPOP at
1.866.914.8786 to have a copy mailed to you or you can
download either form at
http://www.state.sc.us/dss/csed/forms
2. Send the application, with a non-refundable proce
ssing fee of $25 (money order), to:
South Carolina Department of Social Services
Child Support Enforcement Division
PO Box 810
Columbia, South Carolina 29202-0810
3. DSS will process your application and your regional C
SED office will contact you to
schedule a DNA test for approximately 6-8 weeks after th
ey receive the application.
4. When the results come back, if the man is shown to be
the father of the child, there will
be a $30 per person, per child fee for the DNA test.
If the test excludes him as the
father, there is no further cos

December 18, 2013 at 9:46am 

Kurt Monahan if they need any information from me for this please contact and i will give information ty

December 18, 2013 at 9:46am

Tina Vickery No problem. Terry, we're going to go get this done. Go to the court house and get the papers and bring them to work. Let's get this done.

December 18, 2013 at 9:57am

Kurt Monahan Great now maybe the Facebook stuff can stop

December 18, 2013 at 9:59am

Theresa Olaes Noe 
Okay Tina Vickery yes my dear friend.. Thanks let's see how this falls out.. Sending you a surprise text... Hold your tongue on this one please (only for now)

December 18, 2013 at 12:03pm

Maria Carranza why u have do all of this? when d baby is born they well ask if u want a DNA test since they r not married n underage. Just wait till then n grow up use ur heads n act like civil.

December 18, 2013 at 12:14pm

Theresa Olaes Noe Maria... The baby has been born and they have refused and said they would do it.. And then on Google Michelle said she would go file on Monday and here it is..

December 18, 2013 at 12:17pm

Theresa Olaes Noe
 Gabriel has wanted nothing more to believe that KATELYNN GRACE MONAHAN is his child... And even brought things to her house because he was being bullied about being a dead beat (I have pics on phone Gabriel delivering diapers etx) even though Katelynn Grace Monahan was not even born. 

Yes DNA will give closure. If it is Gabriel's he wants to step to step up to the plate and care for her.. (enough fatherless and motherless children in America) the DNA will give his name on the birth certificate as it should be if Katelynn Grace Monahan is his.. And if Katelynn Monahan isn't then there is closure too.. Even though Gabriel would be hurt... 

Katelynn Grace Monahan has the right to know the truth. And has a right to have her biological father in her life. All girls are daddy's girls.. And after all.. If anything Katelynn Grace Monahan deserves peace for all concern no matter the outcome.

December 18, 2013 at 1:05pm

Kurt Monahan Ok wow please.go.file but damn lets.not make Gabriel.a.saint because he.brought.over a package of.size two diapers and one outfit after not.bullied but begged because bliie.did.not.understand why her.parents.should have to.purchase.everything he stated in numerous text.and phonecall that he.would buy things to help so lets just stop the bullshit.on here and.leave.it.alone from here go file and then when the.results come.back you guys.can talk then but Billie does not.want.her.name.changed.yes he will be her father but the.name was.given by Billie and she does.not want it changed

December 18, 2013 at 1:24pm 

Kurt Monahan So let me get this.straight because.she was.not born yet nobody should have bought. Things.yet.or was.that responsibility only Billies.and.families.responsiblity

December 18, 2013 at 1:27pm

Theresa Olaes Noe First.. Not going to even answer the ignorance of that question. 

Second.. Be forthright and state who you are.. Your writing changes and I have learned from months and months when someone else is texting.. Messaging.. Or now posting. Remember Honesty

December 18, 2013 at 1:37pm

Kurt Monahan Its me kurt

December 18, 2013 at 1:40pm

Kurt Monahan Listen I am blocking your.name in twenty minutes not.because.I am hiding.anything but because I am tired.of.your.little.games.on here you make statements on here but never say exactly what you want.you.play.words around your vetting your.DNA.test now so.let it go if you feel the.need to.try and I.state.try.and.do anything to my family as I quote from earlier.comments.like social workers or posting.Billies journal than you.can.reap the benefits or pay the.consequence but.you will no longer dangle.the information you.have please post if.your.going.to post and.get.it over with

December 18, 2013 at 1:44pm

Theresa Olaes Noe (thank goodness it is over) so block... Really isn't anything new, is it. Only thing new is you aren't use to dealing with an adult only a 16 year old. 

Lest you forget, you asked me to add you as my friend. So I obliged. Go back now as you were.

December 18, 2013 at 2:02pm
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Is The Baby Mine?

14/11/2013

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     My Son called from the High School and he told me that he has heard that Billie Roberts-Ostrander was having the baby.  My husband calls, Kurt and Kurt answer defensive and with a quick yes.  Leaves threatening texts, etc saying that Gabriel better not show up at the hospital etc.

     Gabriel was told in the small community over and over that he was a dead beat father (yet the baby wasn't even born).. Yet, these 2 teen-agers, the young Billie just barely going to hit 16 and my son would follow just a month later of being 16 years old, played the game of adulthood and because of their choices, she became pregnant.

     From the very beginning Billie's mother and her mother's boyfriend (or stepfather not sure which because that story also changed much) stood in the front line and began making choices for the unborn child and the young teenage mother.  Yet, Kurt also standing up against the world it seemed, as if he might be more than just what it was suppose to be.

      The wee one was born and low and behold welcome to the world little Katelynn Grace Monahan,  Yes, that is correct, "Monahan" the mother's boyfriend or husband's last name, yet not the mother's last name of the baby that was born.  Yet, the young teenage mother has to have Billie Roberts - Monahan to have a Facebook and yet her legal name is Billie Ostrander.  Not even in regards to what her own biological father.. (later on that one)..

      Gabriel is the father and Gabriel isn't the father.  Words over and over of promises to solve it all a DNA (a simple swab of the cheek when she was born) would be preformed only for Billie to continue to back out each and every time now leaving us to go fill out Non custodial papers.. send in to Columbia, SC only because she couldn't keep her agreement.  After all, she is the one that repeated she was sorry for cheating on Gabriel.

    Yes, that is right she admitted over and over she cheated.. He not only forgave her, he has stood by that it was his child!!!!!  Yet, now that it is being whispered all threw the schools.. and a little a month later is now my son having doubts and is starting to think maybe, in reality it isn't his child!!!

     Women have this control men!!! Only you can stop this and stand up for what is right.. Contact me, Email me, Follow me by all the tabs you can connect with and keep up with this controlling will NOT get a DNA as if you look on other her mother said she would do a week ago, Monday.  

I can back up everything I have said, from writings, letters, journals, recordings.. Do NOT doubt this.. And just like any other mother would do, after the constant verbal attacks from Michelle, Kurt, and Billie.. I have now stepped up to the plate and will NOT be Silent!!!  

     Only when the DNA is performed to prove he is or isn't the father.. That way, they can't keep taunting him, stalking his Instagram, making degrading comments, trying to ruin is reputation (which now the peers are finally standing by Gabriel, including staff)... She has done enough control!!!

It is a woman like this... that gives every teen-age mother a bad name. After all, how many would you deny having a man stand by your side???  Geesh!!!!

*My Thoughts For Today*

Happy Anniversary!!!  (To Me)  And "Happy Birthday, Katelynn Grace Monahan and this is to clearly let you know that others did care and what happened one day when you are truly old enough to understand that people did fight for you to have a father!!!!
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